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Brian D. Hawkins · 12 months ago

Cool, I might be first again. :) That's a cool test. I like to think that by sharing great content with your visitors it pays off in the end. By being more selective you can speed it up. I'm leaning a lot from you my friend, thanks.

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Brian D. Hawkins: Hi Brian, thanks for being the first to comment. You are amazingly fast my friend.I agree with you, somehow we always get our just rewards don't we. Good to see you here again. How's your new site doing?
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Gerald Weber SEM Group · 12 months ago

Well being as how you quoted me in this post It's pretty obvious you already know my position on this issue. Thanks for the mention and the link by the way. However I do have something to add. Let's think about this notion of not linking out or not following comments in order to "not link page rank" or "link juice" but we are wanting others to link to us in order for our page rank to go up? Putting SEO aside for a moment, to me there is something fundamentally wrong with this mentality. You have to be willing to give in order to receive. Thanks again. ;-)

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Gerald Weber SEM Group: That's an interesting thought. Well if this is what people are thinking it's also fueled by what they fear that Google is penalizing blogs who are dofollow ones.
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Gerald Weber · 12 months ago

I understand that is what some people fear. However coming from an SEO background I'll say that Google does want you to link out to other sites of relevant content so the idea that Google will penalize you for linking out I also find a bit silly. There are many things that Google may penalize you for however linking out to quality sites of relevant content is not one of them. Just actively manage your blog and delete any spam comments.

Mary McKnight · 12 months ago

Hmmm. I like the math of it all, so while linking out to quality sites is useful- there is a threshold where you do have too many outbound links and you leak too much PR to other sites so you can never flow enough through to your internal pages to boost PR and gain real authority.

PR is leaked in this fashion - you leak up to 85% of your PR to other sites from each page of your site. The value of the links you give to others diminishes as you link out to more and more pages, so over linking is not helping you or your friends. SEOmoz.org suggests very specific link limits to pages of specific PRs - check out their whiteboard Friday for PR sculpting/siloing and it will all make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Mary McKnight:Thanks Mary for your insightful comment.I'm not sure just how much is too much in terms of having a limit or threshold in outbound linking.
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@Gerald Weber: Gerald, what's your opinion on what Mary has just said about PR leaking up to 85%. That's pretty substantial.
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Gerald Weber · 12 months ago

Peter,

There are over 200 factors that affect page rank. I believe that the idea that linking out in the form of do follow links affecting page rank or "linking link juice" is a falsehood belief that is very much perpetuated in the blogosphere.

Quotes · 8 months ago

I totally agree with you on this Gerald!

Ben Pei · 12 months ago

See Peter! I told ya giving link love is a good way to build backlinks too..

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Wei Liang | Earn Money Online · 12 months ago

I must say that I am guilty for limiting my amount of link love. It should be time for me to start my own link love as well. Like what Gerald say, outbound link is just one of the many factors that affect page rank and thus we shouldn't really worry too much about this. Great article once again Peter.

Cheers
Wei Liang

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Jeff McNamee · 12 months ago

Great read and nice blog by the way!

Regards,

Jeff McNamee
www.johnpaulraygoza.com

Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Ben Pei: Yes I believe so. 4 months giving and still loving it.
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@Jeff McNamee: Hi Jeff, welcome to my blog. My you are pretty fast in getting here as I just left a message to your myspace site a short while ago. Keep in touch.
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Sire · 12 months ago

The thing is that if you are giving someone credit, as is their due, for information that you have used in your post then the idea of withholding some of the juice by making the link nofollow would seem to be a little insincere. It's a little bit like giving the teacher and apple with a bite taken out of it.

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Sire: Absolutely, I sure won't want to be that teacher with the half eaten apple. No thanks!
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Andy @ Do Follow 001 · 12 months ago

556 links now!

My advice to anybody starting a new blog is to link out frequently as you can - it brings your blog to other bloggers attention and you can also gain backlinks out of it as this example demonstrates.

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Andy @ Do Follow 001: Hi Andy, it's your first visit so welcome aboard to this community. Thanks for checking up on the links and yes it's 556 incoming links now. Isn't it amazing. Hope to see you around.
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Alan @ Work From Home · 12 months ago

Awesome case study, Peter. I truly agree that link love will not affect your PR, or at least not to the point that you should withhold linking out or making such links "nofollow."

A great post once again. Thanks!

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Alan @ Work From Home: I agree. Even if we don't talk about PR leaking, I can't imagine writing a topic without referring, mentioning and linking to relevant sites for the readers.
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Asher · 12 months ago

Hi Peter,

Great stuff shared once again! Giving out link love is very important to get incoming links but in my opinion, it's better to build up one's incoming links manually first to get certain pagerank before giving it out.

This is just so that you still have constant link juice coming to your site while you are giving out some link love.

Asher

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Asher:So I guess this means that you are of the opinion that giving outbound links do drain your PR.But you could do both since linking out whenever you write will definitely benefit your readers, and do this now, why wait?
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Asher · 12 months ago

Outbound links drain your PR but not that much unless you're doing a lot of linking. It's the adding up of linking to the same domain that leaks the most PR.

However, I'm not against giving outbound links. What I believe in is to build up inbound links first and make sure that your site has sufficient juice before giving it out.

Asher

Dennis Edell · 12 months ago

Very cool study and congrats on the links. I know my own outbound linking (which I think is pretty good now) will increase considersbly in the coming year. :)

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Dennis Edell: Yep, I do see that you give out link love quite generously too and that's why your readers love you my man. Yeah we are all looking forward to 2009!
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JR @ Internet Marketing · 12 months ago

Great post Peter and I agree with you completely.

LMAO..."do-follow is like cancer..." This paranoia of bleeding link juice is just paranoia. I wonder if Gary offers any proof of this statement, I doubt it.

There is an appropriate time to use no-follow of course, but overall, there is no connection between "losing page rank" and do-follow links. Matt Cuts and Google have discussed this several times on their blogs. I have never seen it affect my blog where I have lots of do-follow comments and a PR3 that I got with one update, nor have I ever seen any evidence or any proof from anyone that is so.

Good for you Peter, sharing the link luv is good for you and good for them, the rewards are much much greater than any risks. Many bloggers understand the importance of link luv and they will hit you back!

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Alan Thomas · 12 months ago

Great results Peter. You have got a lively debate going, just need Mr Google to let us know what the real facts are!

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Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Alan Thomas: Hi Alan, I don't think that's (Mr G revealing anything) going to happen and even if we do, it's probably going to be a double talk.
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Graham Maddison · 12 months ago

Hi Peter,

A very interesting article and one which I am paying close attention to as I need to build some backlinks for my new niche site.

Your blog is looking great..very professional.

Graham

Peter Lee · 12 months ago

@Graham Maddison: Hi Graham, good to see you here. Well I highly recommend doing lots of blog commenting for your new site. It's proven to be one of the fasting ways of increasing backlinks.
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Dewaji SEO Test · 11 months ago

Peter, in some case I got a great result too. In my note; as long as we pointing our link to a great source, this will make our user happy and Google too.

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Peter Lee · 11 months ago

@Dewaji SEO Test: Thanks for dropping by. Absolutely this experience just shows the benefit of linking of high PR and high quality site.
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Jordan Pearce · 11 months ago

Giving out link love can be a good thing. If your blog is working for you and others then you have to ask yourself how important is your PR?

I do a mix of both. Comments are moderated but always dofollow and select links in post are as well.

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Peter Lee · 11 months ago

@Jordan Pearce: Thanks for dropping in. It's good to see others like you give link love too. Just visited your blog and left a comment. Hope to see you around.
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Mitch · 11 months ago

You know how I feel about it all. The universe will give you what you give out, and linking to others in some fashion is always a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Link juice yet; bah! :-)

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Peter Lee · 11 months ago

@Mitch:Hey Mitch, I haven't seen you here for sometime so glad you dropped by.
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Archie Pennies · 11 months ago

Hi Peter this is a very interesting post. I had seen link love posts like the one you are talking about in many blogs but didn't imagine that it could generate such a big amount of backlinks. Will try It in my blog soon. A very well explained case study. We need more posts like these in the blogosphere.

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Peter Lee · 11 months ago

@Archie Pennies:Thanks for the visit and I've just visited yours too. You've got lots of interesting stuff and I'll be visiting it again. Hope to see you around here too.
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Dave (The Other One) · 11 months ago

I'm glad the outbound links have worked for you. Part of the whole idea behind blogging is to connect and link to other bloggers. I try to find as many credible sources on any subject I blog about and link to them. Eventually you'll end up getting a lot of nice backlinks.

Peter Lee · 11 months ago

@Dave (The Other One): Thanks Dave for dropping by. Yes the key is to link to relevant blogs in your own niche. Having quality and relevant backlinks definitely have more value in the eyes of Google.
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Gennice · 10 months ago

I don't see why you should DoFollow if the reason for that is just so other bloggers that you linked to will see that. Because they will receive pingbacks anyway, it doesn't matter if it is a DoFollow or a NoFollow link. That way, you keep the link juice and still let other bloggers see that you've linked to them. Isn't that cool? :D

And great post really! Thanks for sharing such useful case study with us. I stumbled it.

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joe comp · 10 months ago

how to check outbound and inbound links?because i try to websitegrader its not show up.just written N/A.

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Øyvind · 10 months ago

On my blog I have a page where I thank a list of blogs, with link to their post at that time. It has hundreds of links out. I haven't got punished.

I link to them to thank them for doing something a special day, if Google punished me for that I would ban all Google's IP-addresses from every site I own. :)

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Peter Lee · 10 months ago

@Øyvind:Thanks for the visit and for adding to the conversation. That's interesting.
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Blogging Tips · 10 months ago

if it were true then none of catalogues would have better than PR1 since theyh ave loads of links ;)

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Michael Aulia · 9 months ago

Yeah sometimes unexpected things happen to our blogs :) especially since you had the right motivation in sharing and connecting to other bloggers

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Peter Lee · 9 months ago

@Michael Aulia: Thanks for dropping by.I think even if I don't get so many inbound links, I would still share and connect to all my friends and other bloggers. It's the right thing to do.
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cheap web hosting · 9 months ago

Sometimes you get picked on on top commentor and tracbacks get picked up. I have seen some post get picked up and listed on so many pages from a few links out. You never know what site can get you hundreds of links back so it does make sense to mention some every now and then.

Peter Lee · 9 months ago

@cheap web hosting: Yes that's a very logical reason.Once your link appears on the blog homepage, you will get linkbacks and in this case Garry's blog has lots of links, so that explains it.
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goacom · 9 months ago

i came here in search of answers to something I thought wasn't true. I have experienced that inserting the adsense code into my site has brought me crashing down in the serps and I find that people consider this to be a myth.
But i say its true. I guess it is too strong an outbound link which drains link juice and I believe I have to start all over again to get it back.

Nice information here which surely helped.Thanks

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James · 9 months ago

Outlinking some of fear, because bloggers feel there are giving away links to their competition.

But by linking to smaller bloggers, they notice a spike in their traffic, therefore, they are more likely to link back.

outtrigger seminyak · 5 months ago

thank you for sharing the article, where is most important that if we get outbound link from website that same category with us or not, is there any effort if we get outbound link from the website that not same category with us ?